|Many people have asked the question.....Just what the heck is Jimi Hendrix doing on a FUNK web site ?
We thought that we would let the folks who read the web site give you the answer to that question via the feedback that we have gotten from Funkateers all over the internet.
If you have comments of your own feel free to send an email
Keep Funkin !!
DATE: Wednesday, 10-Dec-97 12:27 AM
SUBJECT: Re: Very cool web site
Hi. I am founding an organization called World Unity, which will be officially launched December 31, 1997. The principles of World Unity are to bridge the gaps between the different races, cultures, and religions. Visit me at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/9157.
Even though I am a white female, I love people from all walks of life. I am looking for contributors of each of the four races, all cultures and religions, to submit material that can be read, and help us gain a better understanding of one another.
Anyway, I was browsing through Urban Sounds, and lo and behold, I saw Jimi's name there. Now, being a hippie back in the late 60's, I naturally clicked on to that. I just love Jimi Hendrix. I'm glad to see that his name is finally making it to the different communities.
The rest of your web sit is very cool. Keep up the good work. I'll visit it often. If you have any comments, please contact me at email@example.com.
Thank you so much for your time.
I hope we can soon share ideas with one another. Please put me on your mailing list, especially if you hear of any speakers coming to the St. Louis area.
Love and Peace
Mitakuye Oyasin (Lakota Sioux meaning to all my relations!)
DATE: Thursday, 04-Dec-97 01:04 AM
SUBJECT: DA JIMI MAN RULES
It's great to see that there are people like you who are sharing the "other" perspective of Jimi Hendrix. Growing up I use to get teased by my black friend because I liked Hendrix. I just wished more people would not be so ignorant and get to know what Jimi was really about.
Keep up the good work,
DATE: Wednesday, 03-Dec-97 02:32 PM
SUBJECT: BRC Annual Jimi Hendrix Memorial Concert
The Funk book by Rickey Vincent was 21 days past due....I couldn't let it go. Jimi was a key inspiration for the funk...often he is written in a rock (read: "white") fashion, an not enough in a funk (read: "black") fashion. To hear these top notch musicians give homage is terrific! I'd loved to have hear keyboard wizard Bernie thro' down.
I've been on this Sly Stone kick. I'm really just now getting to know Sly again, and his contributions to the funk. Even now I'm gonna chech out your updated funk Web page, then go to Alta Vista and type in "Sly & The Family Stone...........
p.s. I will be praying for William "Bootsy" Collins, & his family :-)
DATE: Sunday, 31-Aug-97 05:25 PM
I added Hendrix link to my Hendrix link page. I added Soul and P Funk to the general music link page. Thanks for the resource to link to.
DATE: Thursday, 03-Jul-97 04:29 PM
SUBJECT: A Couple Odds and Ends
The August issue of Guitar Player has a cover story on "First Rays". I realize it's not much fun for those that don't play guitar (but maybe you do), but the lead story is pretty general in nature. In fact, it sounds like something you might write, discussing Hendrix's return to his roots and integration of funk into his music. If you don't want to buy it, maybe you know a musician you can scam a copy off of; it's worth checking out. There's also an interview with Billy Cox.
Just thought I'd pass some info your way. Although it looks like it will be wet, try to find a couple dry moments in the upcoming weekend to enjoy. Catch you later.
DATE: Thursday, 15-May-97 08:43 AM
SUBJECT: Re: SUBJECT: Robert Christgau on Jimi
I'm not sure the article I would do it justice, but I'd be happy to fax or mail a copy to you if you want to send me a fax number or mailing address. I thought this article would be of interest to you, and I'd like to know what you think about it. I think what Christgau is saying is that rock fans (read: whites) have been naive to make presumptions about how Jimi felt about his black identity. Here's an excerpt:
"Is it odd that in a time that spawned both mass bohemia and black-power separatism, the symbol of that bohemia became its most prominent black proponent? Of course not. It reflects both liberal America's compulsion to convince itself that it has no race problem and the uneasy debt hip whites invariably feel they owe hipper blacks.
So instead of mystifying Jimi Hendrix as an emblem of tolerance, credit him with marshaling the intestinal fortitude and utopian smarts to decide that the strictures of racism were not for him." ......
DATE: Thursday, 15-May-97 01:34 AM
SUBJECT: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re:Bootsy/Jimi connection
I grew up in New York and my favorite stations" back in the day" was WWRL & WNJR. I loved WBLS when they were called the total black experience. When i said i heard funk all my life i mean it literally because i grew up on James/Sly.
Radio was very different in those days for a number of reasons. The music and the singers were for real. Crossover by black artists was not that common . Also radio was not format driven like it is today. I am glad that i grew up in the sixties because i appreciate many kinds of music.
I feel that Jimi Hendrix was on the verge of being accepted by the black mainstream at the time of his death. Blacks were hip to the Band of Gypsies and the next release would have opened jimi to a new audience.
When i first heard "room full of mirrors" it was like jimi layed down the groove for EWF & P-Funk to carry on. Jimi was so ahead of everything that it took time to catch up to him.
I appreciate your analogy of funk/civil rights because that period of unrest helped create funk. I always thought funk was more than a groove it spoke volumes to black americans who were fighting for our
I grew up in Harlem on 142nd & 7th ave in the projects and in the same neighborhood where Hendrix gave the free concert.(I was out of town at the time of the concert).
I now reside in Durham,N.C. but i still love N.Y. .
DATE: Tuesday, 29-Apr-97 11:50 PM
SUBJECT: Re: Review of First Rays Of The New Rising Sun -
Great website. Thanks for letting me know. Jimi and Miles are the best. JZ
DATE: Sunday, 04-May-97 05:20 PM
Concerning Jimi and "Black Music" I was angry at the world during my militant stage
It what to me was obvious. "Crosstown Traffic" By Charles Shaar Murray allowed me to release that anger. It took me back to the time of. "Another one bites the dust" by Queen in 1980 when that deeply funky song was rejected by my peers once we understood that "white Englishmen" recorded it. I tried for a week to ignore it, but could not. The battle between essentialism, and a groovy groove was alive then and is alive on Hey-Joe.
What I like to think of as the gulf in the two views is in "Machine Gun". Is it a pacifist or (Black) revolution song. I saw one transcription of the line "Well I pick up my axe and fight you like a farmer" could he have also said "like a bomber"? Wouldn't that change the meaning and context? The perception that the cover, and the make up of the BOG certainly fueled some of its popularity among Blacks. And that it came after being 'leaned on' by the Black Panther Party is to his credit. Also small comments about the musicians and the albums can also show the gulf. For Some Noel is too trebly, and others Billy clutters the music. Even during the height of PFunk's reign there were complaints that they were too far to the rock side. The central issue of Jimi and Black Music is is the fact that it was rock and 'tainted' and only a portion of us on our side are willing to make that first step, and only slightly more are willing to push the boundaries with Pfunk. I believe that Jimi had little effect on the Blues because he had no Mississippi delta connection/legitimacy (BB King would not say a bad word about anyone, and Albert King showed little respect) and Rock was up and rolling in the fall of '66. After his death, it was RnB that changed almost over night. Evidence you say? the Chi-lites "Have you seen Her?"- inconceivable before Jimi with all that guitar.
Why have I sent this off list? I think you have been elected "our" spokesman Bob!
You are probably saying something like what we say here in Bermuda "ya got some crust" our version of nerve! The site is outtasite, and I can only encourage you and the guys to continue.
I do have a problem with the left hand side, the yellow links are obscured by Blue ones beginning with Funk Culture. Am I doing something wrong?
"Saturn" Sun Ra
"Mothership Connection" da funk mob.
DATE: Friday, 02-May-97 06:36 PM
SUBJECT: Re: Jimi
Hey Bob. I'm assuming the "AD" you referred to (w/ Last Poets) is Alan Douglas ? On those 2 Jimi/War tracks...again the sound is very poor but if you'd like a copy, send your address. Check it out...being the Miles fan I am, this morning I got right out there and found a copy of "Jack Johnson". Thanks for pullin' my coat to it. It's a precious jewel of his I wasn't aware of. That's quite a crew w/ him. Ralph.
DATE: Friday, 02-May-97 11:30 AM
SUBJECT: Re: Jimi, my Black brother
Magic Sam was a Chicago blues player whose extraordinary control is very similar to what Jimi sounds like when he is playing straight up blues (Hackensack, etc. - pre-Mitch Mitchell style). Magic Sam is awesome and his records can be found in a good record shop.
Melvin Taylor is the featured guitarist during the annual Chicago Hendrix festival. He is frighteningly powerful. His live sessions are 25% better than his studio recordings (in my view). keep an eye out for him.
"Ain't a white man born, from the Pope of Rome to the alley bum, who can outplay the Black man."
DATE: Thursday, 01-May-97 08:10 PM
SUBJECT: Re: Jimi, my Black brother
MR BOB DAVIS wrote:
> What can I say......it's sorta like that scene in "Do the Right Thing"
> where Spike is talking to the Pizza shop guy who claims not to like
> Black people, but likes Michael Jordan & Prince & says "Michael Jordan &
> Prince ....they aren't Black".
> For many white people & some blacks.......the very point that you have
> made about Jimi, has escaped them !!
> Thanks for your input & visit the web site again....I change it every
> month or so.
> Btw - have you checked out "First Rays...." yet ???
Have not heard it directly but for years I have collected bootlegs and other related material. Pali Gap is awesome as is that entire Rainbow Bridge. He played his most inspired when (in my view) when he had a solid funk 4-4 behind him. Have you heard Magic Sam Maghett or Melvin Taylor of Chicago?
DATE: Thursday, 01-May-97 06:49 PM
SUBJECT: Re: black music
Hi Bob -
"..your right it's not really outlandish or unique, it's just what happened !!"
And you're about Power of Soul. This is awesome, sort of a soul epic, soul version of 1983, even, but with cautions... I'm glad black people picked up on it in the states, however messed up by A.D. Britland is still awash with white funkateers... good.
DATE: Thursday, 01-May-97 01:58 AM
SUBJECT: Re:Bootsy/Jimi connection
I am a Bootsy/Jimi fan who would like to find out how deep their connection was. Quite obviously Jimi had a big influence on Bootsy Collins. George Clinton has stated that he knew Jimi during his time with King Curtis; Also Jimi was a fan of the Funkadelics. George said Jimi did Jam with them at one time.
Bootsy was giging with James brown and other musicians during the 60-70's so they may have crossed paths somewhere.
DATE: Thursday, 01-May-97 12:42 AM
Bob, I sent a little something to you in my HJ entry tonight but I wanted to go further. Again, your site is great! I guess I'm a funkateer, a cowboy, a rocker, rasta-mon,etc. I (like you ) LOVE music. Your description was right on the $....it affects how you see/respond to the world. while I get into everything ( including opera and at this moment...native american flute )....my main source of musical comfort/inspiration is Jimi. After that comes Miles, Santana, Led Zeppelin, Eric Burdon & War. I've been into art all my life...painting & drawing. These folks ( thru their music ) have often unlocked the door to creating work of substance. Question: was Juma Sultan ever w/the Last Poets? I have a CD of theirs with Jimi on 2 tracks. I also have a poor quality tape of Jimi & War....was this ever released w/good sound ? Other than King Curtis, Isleys, L Youngblood, Little Richard and other pre-Experience groups, what other black artists did he record with ? - other than BOG and Rainbows at Woodstock. Are any of these tracks/albums available ? Is "Jack Johnson" a Miles album? I never heard of it...is it available? Was there ever a "Black Gold" album by Jimi? I'm very happy to have hooked up w/you Bob. Your contributions to HJ are fresh and insightful. Keep on straight ahead ! Ralph.
DATE: Wednesday, 30-Apr-97 09:42 PM
SUBJECT: Re: Jimi & The Funk
In referring to my corrections, I assume you meant the second e-mail I sent after reading the Jimi section on your website. I hope my comments didn't come across as negative or critical as that was not my intent. I was merely trying to point out a few inaccuracies in an otherwise factual piece. As for others not noticing Jimi's influence on the funk, I think the more genres you listen to the more influence you'll hear. I'm not as much of a jazz aficionado, yet from interviews I've read from jazz artists he has had tremendous influence in that field as well. As I listen to funk, I can't help but hear Jimi's influence. I see songs such as "I wanna know if it's good to you?" basically as an extension of what Jimi was doing a couple of years before. Anyway, that's what makes musicians like Jimi great, the fact that they listened to and incorporated many styles of music into a unique blend they could call their own. I'm rambling now, but yes, there is no denying when you listen to early 70s funk that Jimi was basically already there in 1970. Bye for now.
P.S. "Beginnings" which is featured on FROTNRS is actually credited to Mitch Mitchell as writer. I guess he can write funk as well. Also, while I agree that the version of Stepping Stone on FROTNRS is dull, the original BOG single is very funky in my humble opinion.
DATE: Wednesday, 30-Apr-97 11:53 AM
SUBJECT: Jimi & The Funk
I'm sorry to clutter your in-box with more private e-mails, I just wanted to let you know that I wholeheartedly agree with you comments of Jimi being an unrecognized vital contributor to the world of funk. I have also felt that his material from late '69 and 1970, both with the BOG and the COL band, could be decribed as "proto-funk". Charles Shaar Murray went to great lengths to try to give Jimi his rightful place in the world of jazz in his book, perhaps you could write a book or submit an extended article on Jimi's connection to funk??? Just a thought...
DATE: Wednesday, 30-Apr-97 09:53 AM
SUBJECT: Jimi, my Black brother
Thank you for the acute observation that Jimi Hendrix was indeed A Black Man. This under-examined reality is at the core of his very being. His Blackness was, indeed, the PREREQUISITE for his astounding mastery.
DATE: Wednesday, 30-Apr-97 02:26 AM
SUBJECT: Re: best song by jimi
I damn near agree with your choice of Pali Gap; at worst, it's at the very top of my short list. I was trying to drop a little science on Jimi's place in the world of black music-- something that you've been doing better than anybody on the entire net for some time now. Of course I've been thoroughly checking out P-Funk Review for awhile. I've meant to drop you a line to give you and your crew props for representing the EXPERIENCE that lends the funk its context-- something that the Johnny's-come-lately that fill cyberspace cannot cop in a cd reissue.
I was as puzzled as you were by the guy who questioned the name of your Black History Month feature (through his post on rec.music.funky); I agreed that he could have e-mailed you privately with his questions. I do hope that while you were on rec.music.funky you had the chance to check out some of the P-Funk interviews my posse has posted under the banner UNCUT FUNK. As brothers who came up in the seventies, we too are trying to take a proactive role in the writing of the history, so that it reflects the cultural vibe that both caused and resulted from the music, in a chicken-and egg kind of thang (and not just the notion that the funk is cool just 'cause "Flea says it's cool."). More Christopher Columbus cultural expropriation. I say we ain't goin' out like that this time.
P.S.-- I must stress, though, that you gotta hear the unwiped raw version of Paper Airplanes/Power of Soul if you haven't. It's a completely different groove, just as the Woodstock set sounds different with Juma Sultan and Larry Lee in the mix.
DATE: Tuesday, 29-Apr-97 11:19 PM
SUBJECT: Re: New CD
I checked out your site and your review of Hendrix. Anyone willing to put up that groovy of a web page has got my certification of wellness (but how come not more mention of Sly or James Brown?), therefore I hates to be critical, but I do have some complaints about your review.
I don't think you can brand Jimi a funk artist--just likes you can't brand him a blues artist or a rock artist. Yeah, with buddy on drums he could get in a funk groove worthy of excellence compared with contemporary funk bands, (except James Brown's JB's including Bootsy and Jabo Starks, who were light years ahead of their time and basically invented a sound/style that hasn't been surpassed IMO).
Anyway, Hendrix had blues all the way down to his bones, his joints. To deny that by simply calling him a funk artist is to ignore his whole voodoo chile trip "now when I was born the moon turned a fire red..." He seriously attempted to hone his skills on guitar to be a space age robert Johnson or something. In terms of rock, that was his legacy--exploring sound. He was such an original and such a powerful performer that he shaped the playing of white guitarists forever. You can't deny that he contributed to the sound and effects used in rock, even though his sense of rhythm (yeah you can call it funk) placed him in a different class (obviously). Anyway, I would disagree with anyone who placed Hendrix in one bag, be it funk, rock, blues or psychedelia, or tried to classify him in any way.
He was doing syncopated shit his whole career. I think the funkiest Jimi I ever heard is Wait Until Tomorrow, which was recorded a couple years before some of the stuff on first rays. So I'd say he was right smack in the middle--not the beginnings-- of raw funk.
> • Stepping Stone - uninspired & boring !!....they would have been better off > using Pali Gap. In my opinion this is a perfect example of the type of music that > Jimi's "rock fans" loved & he was trying to get away from !! (bad choice)
I don't see how you can say this about Stepping Stone. You can hear the inspiration right in Jimi's voice. Stepping Stone is not the bust cut on the album, but it blew me away (last week was the first time I heard it) and I'm more a _jazz_ fan than a rock fan. His guitar gets you in your guts. Not to mention the base line is funky as shit.
• Belly Button Window .- boring blues cut....filler !!
What??? Were you listening to the slow blues, letting the lyrics carry you where Jimi was? Letting his cry-baby wah wah effect seep into your mind? Have you ever heard blues played that sweetly, with such incredible timing--with a wah pedal no less? This has always been one of my favorite cuts, before I even appreciated Jimi's vocal style.
Anyway First Rays is a landmark release and we can definitely agree on that bro.
DATE: Tuesday, 29-Apr-97 06:43 PM
SUBJECT: Re: Most important FUNK release in decades ?
I respect your opinion also..I love Jimi and grew up around the Isley's in Cincy..I understand your point and can't wait to hear the new LP..I can't believe however that it's something that I've never heard b4..I got all kinds of Jimi bootlegs and tapes from over the years...Still I can't wait...
" G "
Here Comes Dolly Dagger !!
DATE: Tuesday, 29-Apr-97 02:50 PM
SUBJECT: Rainbow Bridge
Born Under A Bad Sign wasn't on my Rainbow Bridge. But you know Pali Gap is on Voodoo Soup and Hear My Train and Born Under A Bad Sign are on Blues.
The song I want is Look Over Yonder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DATE: Tuesday, 29-Apr-97 01:29 PM
SUBJECT: Re: "First Rays" at http://pages.prodigy.com/funk/
I can send it 2 u...the poetry. No, I haven't checked out the website yet...problems with my Netscape s/w[glsdkfhfskrvkh!!!!] No, I haven't heard or seen the CD yet. I have a rather extensive collection of Hendrix' music. R u aware that one of his songs was sampled as a background 4 a rap tune, one which did quite well on the charts? it came out the spring of '91 I believe, by Digital Underground. The name of the cut is "The Way We Swing". The sample is from "Who Knows" off of the Band of Gypsys LP. I do a show on KTSU -- the station at Texas Southern University, the ONLY jazz station in town, pitiful as that sounds. There is very little musical awareness here, jazz, hip-hop[other than rap] or Black rock.
Regarding the poetry, Hendrix & Coltrane share some of the same space 4 me as innovators, and the poetry reflects that.
More later. Jamal
DATE: Tuesday, 29-Apr-97 12:44 PM
SUBJECT: Re: black music?
You must be the funkateer! I really try not to divide people or music by color. I think this does a disservice to all humans. Maybe "soul" or "Motown" or "acid rock" or "blues" but not by color. If we all stop using skin color to define those things, we will be a step ahead in my opinion. I don't think Jimi played "black music" anyway if that's what you want to call it. In 1967 and 1968, most of the people who started listening and buying Jimi's records certainly never considered it to be "black music" and most of his fans were NOT black. They were pot-smoking, acid-dropping derelicts of which I am proud to count myself!
I am a big fan of colors. I love colors and the brighter they are the better! Colors can describe music, moods, feelings and lots of other things, but I would hesitate to say this or that is "white music" or "black music." Definitions like that will never help the problem.
DATE: Tuesday, 29-Apr-97 12:18 PM
SUBJECT: Jimi Hendrix
My favorite subject, Jimi, so many things to say.... First , I love Pali-Gap, but the reason that it wasnt on First Rays was that it was never named that by Jimi, it was a jam that happened after working on Doly Dagger, Billy Cox went in to the base line for Gimmie Some Lovin, and Jimi, Mitch and Juma fell into the groove, The name Pali-Gap was coined by Mike Jeffery for Rainbow Bridge, feeling that the name would fit in with the location of the movie. I do hope that it is released, I feel it will come out on a disc with various unreleased tracks, I would like to see it with Valley of Neptune, and South Saturn Delta. The next Release is to be a new Band of Gypsy's compilation, hopefully they will throw in a couple of the reheasal tracks as well. By the way have you heard the Cut of Hey Baby from Jimi's show in Copenhagen sept.70? it is far and away the best live version of Hey Baby, I love your website.....Best Wishes, Jay
DATE: Monday, 28-Apr-97 10:56 PM
SUBJECT: Re: "First Rays" at http://pages.prodigy.com/funk/
(like the audio "Freedom" @ your site)
Yes. I have liked Hendrix for years. I wanted to go to Woodstock (but was only 14 at the time). But because I grew up so close to Manhattan (Teaneck, New Jersey). I was fortunate to see The Band of Gypsys at the Fillmore East in 1970 (an event that I will never forget).
When I have time, I will share details about the people that personally influenced me while coming of age in Teaneck...(Thad Jones, Ray Baretto, Ronald Isley, Sir Roland Hanna, Nat Adderly [Sr. & Jr.]) I play sax and Flute for love of the craft, I am an Engineer for income.
My first love is Jazz. I have a "If I had a wish" statement that goes like this ... "If I had a wish, it would be to have been in the studio when Miles Davis, John Colttrane, Red Garland, Paul Chambers and Philly Joe Jones recorded 'Round Midnight. " (But alas, the recording was done 2 months before I was born).
Have you heard anything from Hubert Laws lately? The Brecker Brothers (together)?
Bob, visit my site, you will hear something pleasant... http://www.skantech.com/websight
Peace, Be Cool and Groove. Gregory
DATE: Tuesday, 22-Apr-97 05:32 PM
SUBJECT: JIMI HENDRIX
I personally believe that Jimi was going straight into the Funk genre. He drafted Billy Cox for that deep, big-assed bass sound on the bottom for the Mother Earth grooves while Jimi went into outer space. Jimi got his musical training playing R&B bands. With Funk being Black music and as such, a natural extension of R&B, it is logical to assume that Jimi was going straight for Funk.
What would Jimi sound like if he lived? Listen to Eddie Hazel and Jean-Paul Bourelly. I believe the Prince comparison is inaccurate. Prince is Prince with a unique sound. Jimi expanded the city blues guitar tradition as well as the R&B tradition.
Jimi was Black, his sound was Black, and he gravitated towards Black musicians. Playing with white musicians in the Experience was an experiment imposed on him.